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Pidonus Marasia ([personal profile] have_hat_will_travel) wrote in [community profile] phonetasmal2018-03-23 07:39 am

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[From user: dreadsexy. Interesting choice on Pidonus's part.]

Hey, this is Pidonus Marasia. I'm trying to figure out my goals and motivations and such a bit while I'm here, because the more I'm reviewing the situation, the more likely it is that it's gonna be quite some time before we find my world and I can return to my Queen. So, I gotta come up with motivations for myself,
I guess? Other than, you know, the dungeons. Which have some very weird loot, to say the least...

Anyways! I'd kinda like to try and get some, well, minions for myself. People willing to let me influence their minds into long-term servitude. Key word there is willing, because as quite a few people here have emphasized, it'd be a mistake for me to just take people's wills with my seductive powers.

Of course, anyone who would voluntarily agree to being under my spell is someone with clear and very severe issues. Like, if your mindstate's bad enough that "under the maniplation of a Succubus" qualifies to your own perception as an improvement... I mean, whatever floats your boat I guess, but I'm pretty sure in some cities that would legally qualify you as 'kind of insane'.

So, uh... What does that leave? I genuinely don't know. I'm. Sorta new to the whole 'need to have my own motivations' thing, and the Chaotic and Evil subtypes unto themselves don't do a lot for giving me ideas.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-22 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem, I think, is that you're attacking the question from the wrong angle. Motivation is not what you do; it's what you desire.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-22 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[And if she did, Izunia wouldn't blame her a bit, given his family's complicated issues with revenge.]

No, I would certainly agree to that. It's exhausting as motivations go.

[On the other hand, fuck bahamut.]
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
If you're looking to build a power base, what purpose you'd use it for might be a good start on approaching the matter is your motivations.

[He's intentionally leaving this all open-ended, for her to voice her own thoughts.]
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Then why pursue the matter of minions at all?
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That means very nearly nothing to me, if you'll allow some honesty.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Any person is capable of amoral things. It is the matter of actions and intentions that I concern myself with, not the matter of possibility.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
If you'll again permit me to be blunt, eschewing tradition may not be a bad thing in the long run.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And the blessing of the Draconian is literally a part of mine, but that doesn't mean that I won't do my damnedest to render him into so very much divine scrap metal should I ever encounter him again. You have a predisposition, but it need not define you.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Self-determination is a hard road if you choose to embark on it. You can't rely on the opinions of others, especially those who aren't here.

But I think you can manage.
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[personal profile] foolishjustice 2018-03-25 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
[Oh, Pidonus' response...sure seems familiar.]

She's under some sort of mental effect. Saying anything that causes her to reconsider her loyalty to her Queen causes her to enter a trance and forget the past several minutes.

I expect it will be more productive to work at her concept of freedom and self-motivation independently of that loyalty, at least until we figure out how to prevent that influence from activating.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-25 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That is a problem. And given what she's said here, she seems to think that such a thing is a matter of course in terms of ensuring loyalty.
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[personal profile] foolishjustice 2018-03-25 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
I've been trying to think of ways to remove it without affecting her psyche in other ways. I doubt a standard status removal skill would work, but the only alternatives I have available at the moment are a little extreme. And I'm not even certain one of them is viable here.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-25 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's more than I have, admittedly. Long-term effects like that aren't common on Eos. I would almost say impossible, except...

...Nevermind.
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[personal profile] foolishjustice 2018-03-25 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
I admit, the ability I'm certain I have access to isn't something I've ever used to try to undo a permanent effect. I have the ability to temporarily break all of the bonds on a person's heart and free them from any sort of outside influence, but it doesn't discriminate between excessive restraints and necessary ones. It can be quite dangerous to allow someone's innermost, repressed desires such free reign, and I can't even say whether or not the enchantment will reassert itself as soon as the effect wears off.

The other one...might not even be possible, without access to the places that have a strong presence in her cognition.
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[personal profile] founderinglight 2018-03-25 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
Especially on someone who has admitted to the ability to mentally influence others. It might cause a chain reaction through the entire station.I'm inclined to think that those are not her own true desires, but it's an unpleasant risk.

What does the other method entail?

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