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[dubiouslychthonic]

o)+ ALright, foLks, quick PSA before this has a chance to become an awkward issue, since I have friends around here and for some reason so does JaiLbreak:

o)+ TroLLs have a greater variety of romantic reLationships than humans usuaLLy do. Some of these are more or Less equivaLent to human romance - we caLL those ones red romance, generaLLy sPeaking - but we aLso have a couPLe of modeLs of bLack romance, which is founded PrimariLy in confLict and contention rather than more Positive emotions.

o)+ Kismessitude is normaL and heaLthy in my sPecies, and JaiL aPParentLy has a sense of adventure more usuaLLy associated with PeoPLe getting eggs Laid in their thoraxes. She seems to think she knows what she's getting into by continuing to needLe me. We're both aduLts and abLe to Look our for our own interests.

o)+ As such: it's ok to react to PubLic disPLays of contention with the same sort of miLd censure with which you'd treat equivaLent PubLic disPLays of affection. I wouLd request that you foLks not attemPt to arbitrate between us without exPress invitation. Doing so is imPoLite at best and tantamount to a ProPosition to a different romantic quadrant at worst.

Comments

[myocordial]

Well, thank you so much for offering your opinion once again even though I very much didn't ask, but I think I'm dealing with my emotions just fine. I'm not hiding from anything, least of all any part of myself.

Does being obnoxious and impossible really come this naturally to you or do you practice?

[founderinglight]

I have never been anything but my natural and authentic self with you.

Also, I'm fairly sure that counts as flirting back.

[myocordial]

You really are just like that. I knew it.

Does it?

[founderinglight]

Well, I certainly find it mildly annoying.

[myocordial]

Only mildly? Well, I suppose for some of us, it's just not in our nature to be so effortlessly aggravating.

Should I try harder to match you?

[founderinglight]

I didn't say you were only mildly annoying, just that particular action.

And that's absolutely flirting.

[myocordial]

And yet, with you everything is equally infuriating.

I'm simply stating my honest feelings. You do like to read into things.

[founderinglight]

I'm starting to think you wouldn't admit to your honest feelings if they were painted on a series of billboards, loaded into a truck, and that truck ran you over.

[burninglight]

excuse me

what the FUCK do you think you are doing?

1/3?

[founderinglight]

what

[founderinglight]

Oh, wait, this is 'Izunia is going to replace me with everyone I love" trauma acting up again, isn't it.

i lied 3/4

[founderinglight]

Ardyn, take a breath, the relationship is nothing at all similar. I don't think we could manage to not find each other annoying if we tried.

-> Private to Heart and Ardyn AND DONE

[founderinglight]

And to be frank, Heart is the only one who hasn't set off my own traumas regarding the issue, so doubly take a breath because I don't want the thing you're getting yourself all worked up about.

[burninglight]

don't tell me what to do and don't patronize me

i don't care how dissimilar you say it is, that does nothing to just magically fix what i can literally see you doing right now

[founderinglight]

It doesn't fix it and I can't fix it. Only you can do that.

All I can do is point out that I don't want the thing you're afraid of. From there it's yours to deal with.

[burninglight]

fuck you this isn't on me

this is entirely you and not knowing when to back off

again.

[founderinglight]

The fuck, Ardyn. I don't understand what you want here otherwise because you're just getting pissed instead of saying anything meaningful.

1/2

[burninglight]

REALLY I CAN'T FUCKING IMAGINE WHY

[burninglight]

[A long pause, in which Ardyn typed and deleted a wide range of things to the point where it was starting to look like he wasn't going to bother. Then:]

i don't give a shit about whether or not heart's setting you off, and i trust him to make his own godsdamned decisions about all of this. i don't speak for him or tell him what to do. what i care about is that you clearly just don't give a damn about the fact that what you're doing has an effect on people who aren't you.

'oh, this is izunia is going to replace me trauma' no shit it is, and you don't even seem to care. suddenly it's on me to fix the situation when you came to me about how leonard upset you and forced my hand in intervening because you threatened him?

you don't get to do that, then turn around and do as you please as though your actions don't have the same consequences as his.

in conclusion, you're an absolute hypocritical prick and i still despise you without a trace of hyperbole to that.

[founderinglight]

Well, I don't know what else you want me to do, Ardyn, and throwing a screaming fit at me instead of communicating that isn't going to help me.

I don't know what helps you. Other than 'stop entirely' which, to be frank? I am not going to let your traumas control my life, I have enough issues of my own doing that.

This is an entirely different conversation than him stepping on my traumas with the exclusive goal of hurting me, and you know it, you're just excusing it because you like him and hate me. And I asked you to step in in that instance because the only alternative was to descend into a spiral of increasing antagonism that I don't want. Your alternative here to screaming is... actually talking to either me or Heart, with something other than unfettered aggression.

In conclusion, you're just as hypocritical and also a git, and expecting me to move perfectly around your traumas like some kind of mind reader is beyond unfair. I love you but so help me if you don't learn to communicate I'm going to elbow you in the diaphragm.

[burninglight]

TRY 'DON'T FLIRT WITH SOMEONE YOU LITERALLY SAW ME HAVE INTEREST IN' WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU THAT YOU THINK THIS IS JUST AN OKAY THING TO DO?!

I WILL SHOUT AT YOU ALL I LIKE BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING A PRICK AND I FEEL THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE TELEPATHY TO REGISTER AS AN INCREDIBLY TERRIBLE THING TO DO ON YOUR PART

[founderinglight]

Because I do think of those things as entirely separate?

Ugh. Alright, I fucked up. Sorry.

[burninglight]

they're not

they're not remotely separate and i'm kind of shocked you need this pointed out to you

i'm not saying 'avoid every single person i like' but if you don't recognize that isn't the same as all of this i really don't know what to tell you.

[founderinglight]

Because I don't see 'we have an enjoyable time antagonizing each other' as anything near the kind of supportive relationship the two of you have.

I'll back off the flirtatious antagonism but I don't think we can stop driving each other up a wall.

[burninglight]

you

fuck it, never mind, if i try to define the distinction right this second i'll just get pissed off about it

fine, so long as you back down with the flirting.